{"id":567,"date":"2024-04-01T21:45:03","date_gmt":"2024-04-01T21:45:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/?p=567"},"modified":"2024-04-02T17:11:27","modified_gmt":"2024-04-02T17:11:27","slug":"evernote-vs-toodledo-a-lesson-in-user-respect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/2024\/evernote-vs-toodledo-a-lesson-in-user-respect\/","title":{"rendered":"Evernote vs. ToodleDo: A lesson in user respect"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I love my internet bookmarks. My collection started in the Netscape Navigator browser in 1996, migrated to Delicious.com (a.k.a del.icio.us), then SpringPad, then <a href=\"https:\/\/www.evernote.com\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/www.evernote.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Evernote<\/a>. Each of those migrations was fairly easy, and each new solution offered a free service which could be upgraded for a modest fee for advanced features.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Delicious is now a different service, and SpringPad folded. So it wasn\u2019t a surprise when Evernote started pestering me to upgrade every time I logged in. That in itself I didn\u2019t mind so much. However, it began to bother me when the message became \u201cget this LIMITED time offer!\u201d and when I dismissed the message it would ask \u201cAre you sure? You won\u2019t get this offer again!\u201d I did in fact get the offer again, every day for many weeks. I gently pushed back on social media regarding this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deceptive.design\/types\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">dark pattern<\/a> but it didn\u2019t change anything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So I already had a bad taste in my mouth when I logged in one day and I was notified that the \u201cfree\u201d version would no longer support more than 100 notes (I have over 5600). I would lose access to pretty much everything if I didn\u2019t upgrade.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I had already migrated a handful of times before so I explored my options yet again. Microsoft OneNote was a contender but I couldn\u2019t find an easy way of using my Mac to migrate. That left Apple Notes, and I discovered with joy that it could import an Evernote export file easily. It was missing a bit of formatting and data but it otherwise worked well.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That was about when I discovered that Evernote had quietly removed the ability to export more than 100 notes at a time from their desktop application. Coupled with their curtailed features in the free tier, it seemed clear that Evernote intended to use my own data against me to keep me in their system. Thankfully I had an older version of the Evernote desktop application which allowed a full export. I made the switch to Apple Notes and I never looked back.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It should be said that I firmly believe in paying for valuable tools. Price and value was not the issue here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Contrast my Evernote experience to what happened with <a href=\"https:\/\/www.toodledo.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ToodleDo<\/a>, which I also use regularly. ToodleDo was acquired by a new management team a while ago, and right off the bat they communicated frankly with their users telling who they were and what they intended to do with their service. They assured users they would strive to keep the features they knew and loved. It was clear that they were real people who respected their users and their needs. Later on they sent out a message in the same tone, stating the fact that ToodleDo could use the extra funds and would I please consider upgrading to a paid tier of their service. I had paid for their extra features in the past when they were needed, and I valued their service and respect so I upgraded again happily and paid for unnecessary features for a limited time. Some time after that they wanted to get people to try out their new app, and again they made the request politely without coercion. They maintained consistent transparency and respect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s a book by Dr. James Dobson entitled <a href=\"https:\/\/archive.org\/details\/lovemustbetough00jame\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Love Must Be Tough<\/a>. It is written to married folk suffering from unfaithful partners. His advice to them was, in a nutshell, expel the unfaithful spouse firmly from your household in the hopes that such treatment will shock them to their senses and make them realise the error of their ways. <strong>He presented evidence that shows that people who beg, plead, or try to manipulate their unfaithful spouses into staying only drive them further away. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since I\u2019m comparing myself to the unfaithful spouse here, I will point out that I agreed to starting relationships with Evernote and ToodleDo based on the promise of free service. I was grateful for it while it lasted, since they didn\u2019t \u201cowe\u201d me anything. We all understood that they hoped to earn money from me someday. However maintaining a healthy relationship was still going to require honesty and respect, as it does in any human situation. By being disingenuous, disrespectful, sneaky, and manipulative Evernote eventually drove me away. The good feelings I had for their useful service were wiped away. ToodleDo chose to be vulnerable, respectful and honest and I stayed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Good job, ToodleDo, I hope you guys stay running and have a successful business for a long time!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I love my internet bookmarks. My collection started in the Netscape Navigator browser in 1996, migrated to Delicious.com (a.k.a del.icio.us), then SpringPad, then Evernote. Each of those migrations was fairly easy, and each new solution offered a free service which could be upgraded for a modest fee for advanced features. Delicious is now a different &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/2024\/evernote-vs-toodledo-a-lesson-in-user-respect\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Evernote vs. ToodleDo: A lesson in user respect<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":568,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[10],"tags":[57,56,54,55],"class_list":["post-567","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-business","tag-dark-patterns","tag-experience","tag-service","tag-user"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/04\/Evernote-vs-Toodledo.png","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p28GE6-99","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=567"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":573,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/567\/revisions\/573"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/568"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=567"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=567"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.confidant.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=567"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}